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May 22, 2008 1:02 AM  (go back to main view)
Is there a place for sex in games?

Is there a place for sex in

games?

I'll just let this speak for itself.

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The interactions with prostitutes are completely optional, just like in real life. The game is rated M and anyone buying the game has to know what they are getting themselves into. This is one small sliver of the content available to players of GTA4.

Having said that, here is my question to those who are having violent and negative reactions to this sort of thing: What about it bothers you? Is there a place for this sort of content in any game?

Sure, we don't want every game we play to be a virtual brothel simulator (I wouldn't mind one or two of them though), but I'm sure most of us are perfectly fine with it being a part of some of the worlds we visit.

As a side note: If what bothers you about this sort of thing is that there are no consequences, how do you deal with the things you do in your dreams?

Share your reaction to the video with us. The inclusion of more sex related content seems to be a topic that isn't theorycrafting anymore.

-UG

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Blog Comments (12):
Posted by theY4Kman on
I'm 16 years old and I have this game. My parents are perfectly sane and know the content of GTA4. They know that I'm mature enough to handle content in the game. However, that doesn't go for all parents and/or children. Alas, though, there isn't much that can be done. It's very hard to change a person. You can enlighten an uninformed person, but that isn't the problem. The problem is, as said before, parents who are too full of themselves to learn more about the game, their children, or to even care.

In a utopia, where only the ones mature enough to play this game can get it, I think this content is okay. It is a mature game for mature audiences, and thus should have no rating different than a movie. In fact, it does. If the game were to be a movie, it would've received an MPAA 'R' rating, meaning 17+. An ESRB 'M' rating is 17+. However, if the game were to be rated only on sexual content, it would be a 'PG-13' rating...There is no nudity whatsoever, there is only "sexual content."

For the one poster arguing on the point of the degradation of women, that point is completely moot. That point is like being disgusted at the world because there are strippers or porn stars in it. One just can't think like that. One can't generalize that Rockstar's sole focus in adding prostitution was to degrade women. Also, it's not as if the prostitutes are the only examples of women you interact with. Niko also meets Michelle, his girlfriend. He takes her out on dates and treats her well.

For the poster of this quote: "When I think of video games, I think of 007 or Mario Bros, not some perverted form of porn," I must say that your point is also moot. A movie analogy would be good here: When you think of movies, do you also think of Shrek and Horton Hears a Who? Or do you think of the whole spectrum, including Crank, 300, and every PG-13+ movie out there? Not every movie is rated 'G' or 'PG', just like not every game is rated 'E'.

Just my 2 cents...Well, 6 cents.
Posted by embersyc on
So just to be sure, blowing peoples heads off, stealing cars and shooting cops is all a-ok, but sex is crossing the line?
Posted by  on
I can tell you from the retail clerk perspective that when I worked the opening shift on release day there were parents in there with their 10-12 year old sons buying this game and when I told them the rating they bacisally told me to shut up and give it to them without hearing me out. For the parents who complain about this. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LISTEN. When you stop thinking that you know everything you're child might be lucky enough to turn into a useful person for society. All I can say is: it's not games like GTA IV or violent games or R-rated movies that are messing up America. It's these parents who are so full of their own bullshit that they believe they are the only ones right in this world. Hmmm, explains alot of the divorces in this country as well, don't it?
Posted by  on
there is no way that he coulda had sex in the drivers seat, her ass woulda kept honkin the horn. but i digress, yes, children will play it, and they will sneak into rated R movies with their older sibling, and look up porn on the home computer in that half hour between the time they get home and their parents do. i didnt have to do any of this because my parents really didnt give a damn. I played gta 2 when i was 10 years old, hell no i wouldnt let a kid play gta4 that young, but its different now. parents just have to be responsible when buying their kids games. If they are going to let them play games like this at a young age then ffs, MAKE SURE THEY KNOW ITS A GAME!
Posted by  on
This game is rated M for mature audiences only. The topic of this post might as well be is there a place for sex in movies... or in novels... it makes no difference. People that complain about this have a dual standard and should reconsider their beliefs before forcing it on others.
Posted by  on
Is he using protection ?
Posted by  on
you forgot to kill the hookers and take your money back, and thats not optional in real life because hookers are expensive.
Posted by  on
I am absolutely appalled by this. When I think of video games, I think of 007 or Mario Bros, not some perverted form of porn for immature 20 or 30-somethings that can't get a date. What are we teaching our young people? I understand that our culture is definitely becoming very ok with sex in the media, but is that what we all really want? Especially when the type of sex being shown is unsafe, dirty, and not to mention illegal? There are movies out there that show sex in a tasteful, but realistic way. GTA4 is not tasteful at all. And I'm not even old! I'm 20. It just makes me sick.
Posted by Antonio He... on
I agree with Guest01 here, I have no problem with sexual content in an M rated game, as I have no problem with sexual content with an R rated movie. The rating system is a forewarning to anyone who wishes to see or play a certain game/movie.

But, there is a problem with these games falling into children's hands by uninformed parents and irresponsible clerks.Alas, it has been discussed before.

Personally,I don't really choose to do any of the Hooker activites in GTA as I don't really see a point. I'm sure Rockstar injected as a form of social commentary(giving you the ability to beat or kill them), but I don't see it as anything more than "Alright..I just had virtual sex....great?"

Sexual content will become more explicit in games , just as they became more explicit in movies. As games slowly age, they will feel the growing pains their close cousin, film, when it traveled through the 50's era in America.



Posted by  on
Generally this tipe of games would be critisized and put apart for such a content it has. I would like to say that, personally, have nothing against it having in mind that it should be a game played exclusively by adults. This tipe of games should never ever fall in hands of a child at least until age 15 or 16. For me its completely normal that people have sex dreams, but this is really the point when it has to stop. Creating a game which I suppose is just for men, were women are put to the spot, being degarded at this point is a little dissaponting, because, especially men, have to remember than you have sisters, daughters, and MOTHERS. Women should be respected no matter what they do.
Posted by Penny for ... on
I like when people try to make an informed argument and can't even use spell check. To insist that this was added in just to degrade women is not only childish, but nothing more than an insulting political correctness charged banality. I honestly think that sex, no matter how "clean" as well as nudity should be less of a concern than any violence. I'm not an anti-violence advocate, but more of a common sense advocate. What's so wrong with nudity, sex, prostitution or anything involved with it? And why is it a bigger problem than violence? I personally think that we should be able to say and do as we wish as long as it harms no one.
Posted by  on
I have to agree in one point and disagree in another with what the person before me wrote on this topic. I also think that GTA4 isn't neccessarily a fun driving game for kids and should be categorized appropriately. But I don't see anything wrong with including pixel-prostitution and "sex scenes" like these in GTA4 in a game like that.
One: You can't actually see anything at all that is explicit (body parts etc.).
I believe that there is worse to see in movies, on tv and on the net, that is
even easier to access for children than a prostitue in GTA4.

Two: GTA4 has a story and is to be seen as taking place in its own virtual city
(a replica of we all know what...), a kind of enclosed biosphere....including the crime and prostitution that comes along with it. Leaving things like that out would be cheating this game of its authenticity that makes up so much of its lovely caricaturing character!

Enjoy playing!
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From Playstation Day 2008: This better be true.
to bad EA sucks at everything they do and this game even if it plays exactly like that will suck. You wana know why, because EA spent to much time on sports game and now has no idea how to use all the buttons controllers come with. Also the AI will be mentally challenged. EA is garbage -- guest

From Is there a place for sex in games?
So just to be sure, blowing peoples heads off, stealing cars and shooting cops is all a-ok, but sex is crossing the line? -- embersyc

From Is there a place for sex in games?
I am absolutely appalled by this. When I think of video games, I think of 007 or Mario Bros, not some perverted form of porn for immature 20 or 30-somethings that can't get a date. What are we teaching our young people? I understand that our culture is definitely becoming very ok with sex in the media, but is that what we all really want? Especially when the type of sex being shown is unsafe, dirty, and not to mention illegal? There are movies out there that show sex in a tasteful, but realistic way. GTA4 is not tasteful at all. And I'm not even old! I'm 20. It just makes me sick. -- guest